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PostSubject: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 11, 2012 12:07 am

So after atlanta displayed that pitiful game against the gmen, the jaguars decided to hire their offensive coordinator Mike Mularkey(atlanta offensive coordinator). i mean (in my ed lover voice): C'MON SON!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:16 am

so, them going to an offensive coordinator who helped matt ryan become a stud in the NFL, to help their struggling QB in Gabbert is a "C'Mon Son" moment??


1 game doesn't make a OC or coach bad...
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 11, 2012 9:44 am

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so, them going to an offensive coordinator who helped matt ryan become a stud in the NFL, to help their struggling QB in Gabbert is a "C'Mon Son" moment??


1 game doesn't make a OC or coach bad...

He didnt help matt out if anything he has hindered him imo

But the giant game isnt just an anomaly....It was his usually bad play calling self, just this time it was on a national stage where everybody could see


so glad to see him go...just hope ATL doesnt pick up Mike Martz
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 11, 2012 5:47 pm

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WasItTehChad wrote:
so, them going to an offensive coordinator who helped matt ryan become a stud in the NFL, to help their struggling QB in Gabbert is a "C'Mon Son" moment??


1 game doesn't make a OC or coach bad...

He didnt help matt out if anything he has hindered him imo

But the giant game isnt just an anomaly....It was his usually bad play calling self, just this time it was on a national stage where everybody could see


so glad to see him go...just hope ATL doesnt pick up Mike Martz

Enough Said.......WFColonel hit the nail right on the head.


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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:44 pm

the nfl recycles people but it doesnt matter who the jags hire they will suck
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Thu Jan 12, 2012 6:24 pm

WasItTehChad wrote:
so, them going to an offensive coordinator who helped matt ryan become a stud in the NFL, to help their struggling QB in Gabbert is a "C'Mon Son" moment??


1 game doesn't make a OC or coach bad...

Matt Ryan's a stud now? All I see is a kid who succeeds at home in the regular season, struggles on the road, and performs underwhelmingly in playoffs. (and Gabbert can not be helped...Jags are going to be looking at RG3, bank on it)

And you're right. One game doesn't make a coach/coordinator bad. But several games do. Mularkey has his head in his rear a large percentage of the time. He has a LOT of Mike Martz in him as far as egos go. Check out Mularkey's run/pass ratio inside the 3 yard line with one of the best goaline (and overall) runningbacks in the league in Michael Turner. Pretty abysmal. He makes MORE than his fair share of boneheaded calls.


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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Thu Jan 12, 2012 10:44 pm

not to mention ole matty ice been in the league 3 years without a playoff win. c'mon son!
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:21 pm

I highly doubt the jags look at RG3.. They need wrs. They used a first-pick on gabbert last draft. He will benefit from training camp and off-season programs. I'd like to see 'em take ok states wr.


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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:38 am

I def think he is a top 10 QB in the NFL, Eli went 0-2 or 0-3 in the playoffs (cant remember) before he went nuts and win a sb..
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:51 am

Ehhh....hard to really justify his performance given his frequent laying down in big games

Brady
Manning
Brees
Rodgers
Rivers
Eli
Stafford
Roethlisberger
Cam/Cutler/Romo/Ryan?

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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 1:57 am

i will stay out of this debate lol
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:44 am

WFColonel56 wrote:
i will stay out of this debate lol

lol.
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 2:48 am

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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Fri Jan 13, 2012 9:36 am

Rodgers
Brady
P. Manning
Brees
Roethlisberger
E. Manning
Rivers
Vick
Romo

Ryan, Schuab, Stafford, Cutler,
i know noone asked but here it is the top 9 IMO with 4 out side looking in. I left both rookies out of consideration as its too early to tell
No matter whos list you are looking at as you go down from the top you lose playoff experience and success. My top 6 have won superbowls, most everyone elses has too... look at River and Roethlisberger. Rivers year in and year out has more yards and touchdowns than Ben but Roethlisberger has been to 3 superbowls and Rivers 0 .. When/IF Matty ice goes deep into the playoffs or makes it to a superbowl people can argue about him being a top 9 quarterback but not until then IMO
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Sat Jan 14, 2012 9:37 am

Woah! Romo at the bottom of top 10? Lol ehhhh ill stay out of this debate as well... Romo hasnt been the reason the cowboys lost an finished where they did. Theres only a few qb's who are better then him. He is a top 6. Manning, brady, brees, rodgers, rivers romo.

Ben is given too much credit, he is only as good as his defense.

Vick is a one year wonder

Eli is inconsistent year in year out.

Im not ready to say stafford is better after one year.

Cutler lol.. Worse then romo at turnovers

Payton manning took 10 years before he got a superbowl.

Winning a superbowl is a team effort. Ben doesnt win that his last superbowl against cardinals if not for a 99 yard int by harrison. Yes ben is clutch, but his defense should be given more credit then him holdimg teams mostly below 20 points unleds its against rodgers or tebow. Haha

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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:55 pm

ooooooh s#%#, touchy subject right here, lmao!
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Sat Jan 14, 2012 6:07 pm

only thing ill say is p manning is a god

and you wont win anything with romo
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Mon Jan 16, 2012 6:43 pm

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Woah! Romo at the bottom of top 10? Lol ehhhh ill stay out of this debate as well... Romo hasnt been the reason the cowboys lost an finished where they did. Theres only a few qb's who are better then him. He is a top 6. Manning, brady, brees, rodgers, rivers romo.

Ben is given too much credit, he is only as good as his defense.

Vick is a one year wonder

Eli is inconsistent year in year out.

Im not ready to say stafford is better after one year.

Cutler lol.. Worse then romo at turnovers
Payton manning took 10 years before he got a superbowl.

Winning a superbowl is a team effort. Ben doesnt win that his last superbowl against cardinals if not for a 99 yard int by harrison. Yes ben is clutch, but his defense should be given more credit then him holdimg teams mostly below 20 points unleds its against rodgers or tebow. Haha


Greatly debatable. Get him just ONE of the Cowboys WRs and, hell, even the Cowboys offensive line (as bad as THAT is).

People forget that Cutler has matured since his Denver days, and has spent his first three seasons with the Bears with:

1. An offensive line that has a 7th round LEFT TACKLE (smh), and 2 undrafted FA starters (considering Chris Williams can't keep his back healthy, and Carimi's dislocated patella will be an issue his whole career)

2. A WR corps consisting of our #1 Johnny Knox (who is a 5th round pick), #2 Devin Hester (who played DEFENSE in college), our #3 Earl Bennett (who'd be a 5, maybe a 4 on most other NFL teams), and #4 Dane Sanzenbacher (who's an undrafted FA).

3. No All-Pro TE, Martz had him traded away only to leave the next season.

4. 3 different O-Coordinators in 4 years.

Yet the guy is still on the cusp of being a top 10 QB in the league despite ALL THAT working against him....whilst a guy like Romo has a pro-bowl WR, pro-bowl TE, Dez Bryant (soon to be All-Pro) to throw to, and an at least AVERAGE OL blocking for him...and he's on the cusp as well...I'll give the benefit of the doubt to Cutler. Romo's had his chances...

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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:10 am

And romo has put up numbers that rival with brady, brees, peyton, Arod on a career basis. His career passer rating is BETTER than brady, peyton. 3rd best all time behind steve young and Arod.

Theres no comparison between romo and cutler period.

I dont see why people hate on him soooo d@mn much. Our year-in and year-out average seasons are not on romo's shoulders.

The cowboys need help defensively. Our special teams cost us 2-3 games alone.

Give romo chicago's d/special teams Wink
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:23 am

And cutler does have a , well use to be two of his wrs in williams an hurd! Hahaha

Everything about romo gets blown out of proportion. Stats may not tell the WHOLR story, but numbers dont lie. He is one of the best qb's in the league.
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Tue Jan 17, 2012 4:55 pm

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And romo has put up numbers that rival with brady, brees, peyton, Arod on a career basis. His career passer rating is BETTER than brady, peyton. 3rd best all time behind steve young and Arod.

Theres no comparison between romo and cutler period.

I dont see why people hate on him soooo d@mn much. Our year-in and year-out average seasons are not on romo's shoulders.

The cowboys need help defensively. Our special teams cost us 2-3 games alone.

Give romo chicago's d/special teams Wink

Passer rating is a terrible barometer of quarterbacking quality. It's equivalent to some of the really BS Sabermetric statistics you see in baseball.

For instance, COMPLETION % is only weighted as 5% of the total QB rating, while yards per attempt (a stat greatly fluctuated by YAC yards) is weighted 25% of the value.

Shaun Hill and David Garrard are also top 25 all-time QBs by passer rating reflection.

In what world is Joe Theismann a worse QB than Tarvaris Jackson?....the answer....the "QB Rating" world.

Here's a baffling one....in what world is JOHNNY UNITAS worse than Matt Cassel?....the answer...the "QB Rating" world.

And I realize that the season isn't on Romo's shoulders...he's got all the weapons in the world to throw to while Cutler has about 65% of his offense as 5th round -undrafted FA players, and he's still right there with Romo in the conversation for current top 10 QBs. To be honest, no reason Romo shouldn't be a top 5 QB. He's been a huge dissapointment.

And I'm talking about giving Cutler 1 other player to either throw to OR block for him WHILE he throws...not 11 defensive players and Devin Hester. Hahah

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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Tue Jan 17, 2012 6:18 pm

I hate the Cowboys but I try to b realistic and Romo is if not an elite QB, just a notch under. Numbers dont lie and not the crappy QB rating kind, the guy gets blamed for a defense that let him down. Granted vs the Jets he gave it away and some bad INTs vs Lions, and vs the Pats Garrett took the ball out of his hand.

Anyway I'm glad he is home watching :-) and Giants are not.

Romo is a more than a good QB.
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PostSubject: Re: whats going through the jags minds?   Wed Jan 18, 2012 2:41 pm

ill take cutler or romo
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