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PostSubject: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 4:05 pm

Whats a good D to slow down the HB draw play using 43 or 52 defense? mostly under center plays.
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:25 pm

I use the 4-3 D. I would suggest 4-3 under edge sting. Spread your line and user the LB. You will see the LOLB and the DE collapse the pocket and just make the play with the LB. Let me know if that helps.
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 5:26 pm

Edge Sting out of 4-3 Over is an excellent inside run defense.

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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:00 pm

i found being in man is better for qbs draws because in zone ppl are backing up which helps the play..u want ppl attacking the line
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 6:23 pm

ZAN wrote:
Edge Sting out of 4-3 Over is an excellent inside run defense.

Zan, i may check into this. I mainly use the stack and under from 4-3. Do you do anything with the edge sting? Or do you run the play as is?
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Tue Jan 24, 2012 8:33 pm

Thanks everybody for ur feedback...hope it helps
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Fri Jan 27, 2012 12:01 am

Ghostface wrote:
Whats a good D to slow down the HB draw play using 43 or 52 defense? mostly under center plays.

if you run 4-3 stack OLB fire man

spread the d-line crash out, and just spread the LBs, any draws, off tackles, or counters or toss's this play eats up, just be wary of hb dives with motioned a-gap blockers thats the weakness to this run d

you can do same concept from zone u just have to blitz both OLBs , its double b-gap heat so anything thats not a HB dive its really good on
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Fri Jan 27, 2012 1:23 am

I do a little differently, don't really pick any one play in particular, but usually 3-4 over or even, or 4-3. When I expect a draw i get get my MLB in spy, and crash middle line, it covers middle of the field and the scramble and always worked against the draw well for me. It might give up a couple yards, but after a few runs of only 2-3 yards the people i played against drop that play, and are wary of anything similar. With Ray lewis ball pursuit was never a problem, and if they got by Ngata, suggs or Reed came in and picked up. Not saying it will work all the time, but it's been good for me.
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Fri Jan 27, 2012 4:57 pm

BuckNut4eva wrote:
Ghostface wrote:
Whats a good D to slow down the HB draw play using 43 or 52 defense? mostly under center plays.

if you run 4-3 stack OLB fire man

spread the d-line crash out, and just spread the LBs, any draws, off tackles, or counters or toss's this play eats up, just be wary of hb dives with motioned a-gap blockers thats the weakness to this run d

you can do same concept from zone u just have to blitz both OLBs , its double b-gap heat so anything thats not a HB dive its really good on

All opponents I play use motioned gap blockers, but I'll give this one a try, Ive been liking 52 Cover 1, Pinch and 43 Over/Under Cover 6 and 43 Under Edge Sting but motioned gap blockers are the problem stopping same and my user/depth perception is suspect one miss and a huge gain normally a TD happens.
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Fri Jan 27, 2012 5:12 pm

prophet wrote:
BuckNut4eva wrote:
Ghostface wrote:
Whats a good D to slow down the HB draw play using 43 or 52 defense? mostly under center plays.

if you run 4-3 stack OLB fire man

spread the d-line crash out, and just spread the LBs, any draws, off tackles, or counters or toss's this play eats up, just be wary of hb dives with motioned a-gap blockers thats the weakness to this run d

you can do same concept from zone u just have to blitz both OLBs , its double b-gap heat so anything thats not a HB dive its really good on

All opponents I play use motioned gap blockers, but I'll give this one a try, Ive been liking 52 Cover 1, Pinch and 43 Over/Under Cover 6 and 43 Under Edge Sting but motioned gap blockers are the problem stopping same and my user/depth perception is suspect one miss and a huge gain normally a TD happens.


if they are motioned gap blocking best run D for me is 4-3 under cover 3, bring the safety on the left thats in a light blue down on the left edge of DE, about 2-3 yards outside, i place him in a purple, and if its a hb dive motioned gap blocker i will pinch the line, i do user my safety to help blow the run up......

don't use the 4-3 stack olb fire if they are motioned gap blocking, you are suspect to big gashes, i use it for outside runs and quick hike runners
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PostSubject: Re: Getting slashed & gashed   Sun Feb 05, 2012 1:34 pm

smoke mid zone 4-3 over both c2 and c3 versions are excellent vs inside runs and fb dives
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